A Dialogue between Socrates and Thomas Hobbes: is life really solitary, nasty and brutish?
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1665, Thomas Hobbes’s study. The room is dim, lit by flickering candles. Hobbes, aged and weary, sits at his desk, penning a draft of “De Corpore.” Piles of books and papers cover the desk, creating a fortress of intellectual isolation. Suddenly, a burst of light fills the room, and Socrates appears, wearing a simple chiton and displaying a quizzical expression.
Socrates: [cheerfully] Greetings, Thomas! I trust I am not intruding upon some grand treatise on the doom of humanity?
Hobbes: [startled, dropping his quill] Good heavens! Who—what—are you?
Socrates: [grinning] I am Socrates, at your service. And you, I presume, are Thomas Hobbes, herald of the Leviathan and prophet of grim proclamations about man’s wretched existence.
Hobbes: Socrates? The Athenian philosopher? Impossible! You’ve been dead for over two millennia.
Socrates: Dead, perhaps. But philosophy, like a good idea, refuses to stay buried. I heard your lament about the life of man being "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short," and I thought I might rescue you from this philosophical quagmire.
Hobbes: [eyeing him skeptically] Rescue me? I think not. My views are grounded in observation and reason, not whimsy.
Socrates: Whimsy? [laughs] My dear Thomas, if my reputation has survived centuries, surely it’s not for whimsy. Shall we engage in a dialogue to test your assertion? Unless, of course, you fear the exercise.
Hobbes: [scoffing] Fear? Hardly. Proceed, if you must.
Socrates: Splendid! Let us begin. You claim the natural state of man is solitary, nasty and brutish. Tell me, Thomas, have you ever known a man to build a house entirely on his own?
Hobbes: No, but necessity compels men to cooperate. Such cooperation is fragile and often marred by self-interest.
Socrates: Fragile, perhaps. Yet, would you not agree that this cooperation has built cities, cathedrals, and universities? Fragile things, but remarkable nonetheless?
Hobbes: Remarkable, yes, but driven by fear. Men join forces to escape the war of all against all.
Socrates: Fear, you say? But if fear is the sole motivator, why do men paint frescoes, compose sonnets, and brew ale so fine it inspires dancing in the streets?
Hobbes: [smirking] Dancing in the streets? Are you Athenian or a merry Englishman?
Socrates: [chuckling] I dabble. But answer me, Thomas: does fear explain joy?
Hobbes: Perhaps not. Joy may arise from fleeting reprieves in life’s hardships.
Socrates: Fleeting reprieves, you say? If joy is fleeting, is it not also precious? Would you dismiss the radiance of a sunrise simply because night follows?
Hobbes: [pausing] I concede your point, but joy is rare. The state of man remains bleak when ungoverned.
Socrates: Governed, ungoverned—we shall return to that. But first, consider this: is the love of a mother for her child born of governance or something deeper?
Hobbes: Maternal love is instinctive, a biological imperative.
Socrates: Ah, biological imperative! A tidy phrase. Yet does it not suggest that man’s nature is more nuanced than mere brutishness?
Hobbes: [reluctantly] Perhaps.
Socrates: And tell me, Thomas, when you were but a lad, did you never laugh with friends, marvel at the stars, or feel a stirring in your soul when you heard music?
Hobbes: [softening] I did. Those were good moments, but youth is often deluded by idealism.
Socrates: [grinning] And old age, by cynicism. Tell me, which delusion is more useful?
Hobbes: [chuckling despite himself] A clever turn of phrase, Socrates. But I maintain that the natural state of man is fraught with danger and conflict.
Socrates: Dangerous, yes, but is danger not a spur to courage? And conflict—a wellspring for art, literature, and even philosophy?
Hobbes: You romanticize struggle.
Socrates: [leaning forward] And you, my friend, romanticize despair. Let me ask: if life is as nasty and brutish as you say, why do men cling to it so fiercely?
Hobbes: Survival is an instinct, a mere reflex.
Socrates: A reflex, you say? Then why do men write poetry, build monuments, and dream of immortality? Surely these acts transcend mere survival?
Hobbes: [sighs] Perhaps you are right. Man is more than survival, though survival is his foundation.
Socrates: Progress! Now, let us return to governance. You argue that man needs authority to escape his brutish state. Yet, would you not agree that laws are born not of fear alone, but of reason and shared aspiration?
Hobbes: Reason plays a part, but aspiration often crumbles under ambition.
Socrates: True, ambition can corrode. But does it not also build? Without ambition, would we have Shakespeare, Galileo, or yourself?
Hobbes: [laughing softly] You flatter me, Socrates.
Socrates: Flattery is the sugar of discourse, Thomas. But it is truth that nourishes. And the truth is, life is not solitary nor wholly nasty and brutish. It is, rather, a tapestry—woven with threads of struggle and joy, fear and love.
Hobbes: [smiling wistfully] You are relentless, Socrates. Perhaps I was too harsh in my judgment.
Socrates: Harshness is forgivable when paired with wisdom, which you clearly possess. Now, promise me you’ll consider revising your grim outlook. Perhaps, "The life of man, though fraught with peril, is enriched by reason, love, and community"?
Hobbes: [nodding] A fairer statement, though less dramatic.
Socrates: Drama is for the stage, my friend. Philosophy seeks the light.
(Socrates stands to leave, his chiton glowing faintly in the candlelight.)
Hobbes: Will I see you again?
Socrates: Only if your despair grows loud enough to summon me. But I trust, Thomas, that next time I visit, I shall find you laughing.
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Socrates vanishes, leaving Hobbes chuckling softly and reaching for a fresh sheet of parchment on which he writes:
"The natural state of man is not solitary nor purely nasty and brutish, but a balance of frailty and nobility, woven together by the hands of reason and fellowship. Inspired by an unexpected visitor."
(The author received a B.A. degree in Philosophy from The Johns Hopkins University.)
Funny, but I’ve been seeking out philosophy to provide some philosophical grounding to approach the horrors we’re experiencing, post Jan. 20. I found this helpful.
Ingenious!!!